Difference between revisions of "Radon measurement with DIY track detectors"
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How about Electrochemical etching or Ultrasonic etching? | How about Electrochemical etching or Ultrasonic etching? | ||
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Let's try and meet at SDG Solution Space in Geneva for "Open Hackuarium 228 "Sans les murs" #2, Spécial Genève" | Let's try and meet at SDG Solution Space in Geneva for "Open Hackuarium 228 "Sans les murs" #2, Spécial Genève" | ||
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Hmm... did not work. No traces. | Hmm... did not work. No traces. | ||
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Let's try again. | Let's try again. | ||
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+ | Maybe we need to use ultrasonic bath or electrochemical etching? | ||
Electrochemical etching with 15 kV AC/cm, 40 kHz. | Electrochemical etching with 15 kV AC/cm, 40 kHz. | ||
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Getting the CR39 from ebay, it's cheap. (Look for "CR39 welding") | Getting the CR39 from ebay, it's cheap. (Look for "CR39 welding") | ||
[[File:CR39.jpg|300px]] | [[File:CR39.jpg|300px]] | ||
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+ | Put a piece of CR39 and a piece of delaminated DVD-R on an alpha source (Quantum Pendant), then 2 hours in 7M NaOh in an ultrasonic bath a 70-80°C. | ||
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+ | And there seems to be something. One side of the plastic sample turned milky. The other side that was covered by a scotch tape during radiation ( | ||
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+ | [[File:DVDSampleRadonTracks.jpg|400px]][[File:CR39SampleAlphaTracks.jpg|400px]] | ||
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+ | [[File:DVD.png|400px]][[File:CR39_2.png|400px]] | ||
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+ | [[File:LaserDump 2018-11-23 11:50:27.png|400px]][[File:LaserDump 2018-11-23 12:01:25.png|400px]] | ||
Links: | Links: | ||
[http://pubs.sciepub.com/ijp/3/6/2/?fbclid=IwAR0GLvaM6EkER8TcrBJIdTH-v8hPOXcyBhTL42tHuLWhxjHgkD6ixtpC9gg Measurement of Radon Gas Concentrations in Tap Water for Baghdad Governorate by Using Nuclear Track Detector (CR-39)] | [http://pubs.sciepub.com/ijp/3/6/2/?fbclid=IwAR0GLvaM6EkER8TcrBJIdTH-v8hPOXcyBhTL42tHuLWhxjHgkD6ixtpC9gg Measurement of Radon Gas Concentrations in Tap Water for Baghdad Governorate by Using Nuclear Track Detector (CR-39)] |
Revision as of 18:35, 28 November 2018
Radon: origin, health effects, measurements, Marco Silari, CERN:
Playing with Radioaktiviät - cool.
Alpha particles form the gas or liquid shoot holes in the plastic, then you develop it to make the hole bigger. Take CR-39 Plastic (from laser googles ?) etch it with 7M NaOH, 70°C for 5h ?
1 M NaOH is 40g
NaOH is commonly used to develop photo-resist when making DIY printed circuit boards... so we should have some in the lab.
PMMA/Acryl should work as well...
Can we use the DVD laser scanner to see the holes?
And could we use a DVD as detector material (Polycarbonat)? And how about modifying a DVD player to read the holes? And using old CDs or DVDs from a cellar to determine the radon concentration? Make it a community science project?
People have looked into this before: Application of polystyrene films for indoor radon dosimetry as SSNTD
Radon mapping by retrospective measurements – an approach based on CDs/DVDs
echt geil
How about Electrochemical etching or Ultrasonic etching?
First Experiments
Let's try and meet at SDG Solution Space in Geneva for "Open Hackuarium 228 "Sans les murs" #2, Spécial Genève"
Hmm... did not work. No traces.
Second Experiment
Let's try again.
Maybe we need to use ultrasonic bath or electrochemical etching?
Electrochemical etching with 15 kV AC/cm, 40 kHz.
Electrochemical etching studies of the CR-39 plastic
Getting the CR39 from ebay, it's cheap. (Look for "CR39 welding")
Put a piece of CR39 and a piece of delaminated DVD-R on an alpha source (Quantum Pendant), then 2 hours in 7M NaOh in an ultrasonic bath a 70-80°C.
And there seems to be something. One side of the plastic sample turned milky. The other side that was covered by a scotch tape during radiation (
Links: